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Backscatter problems with PG & Plesk

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 3:23 pm
by Inaba
I have a PG box setup to handle the front end mail acceptance/scanning for my Plesk box.

However, I've been noticing more and more backscatter being generated by the Plesk box because the PG box is blindly accepting email to the given domains.

I understand why this is happening... but I'm wondering if there's a good way to fix it. Obviously, PG would have to somehow understand what mailboxes are acceptable on the Plesk box... in addition to honoring the "deliver non-existent mailboxes to a catchall address" configuration.

I don't think this would be *that* hard to implement.. but I'd like to do it in a way that's friendly with Plesk and PG. I'm hoping someone is already addressing or starting to address this issue, because it's becoming a bigger and bigger thing.

Anyone?

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:03 am
by scott
The version of qmail in the [atomic-bleeding] channel supports a validrcptto file, where you can dump a list of valid domains/email addresses into a cdb file. This would ensure that the PG system only handles mail for valid accounts. Ive got some scripts in there that will let you tie it into an LDAP/Active directory server, or generate them from the psa qmail userlist. Its feature complete, the only thing I have left to do is to come up with a wrapper to automate the config generation.

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:23 pm
by Inaba
That's good to hear, Scott!

Is there provisions to support the catch-all type address in Plesk, or is it an on or off thing? Some of my domains are set to reject and some are set to a catch all.

If I understand what you are saying, it sounds like it could be a valid domain, OR a valid address at a domain, is that correct, or is it one or the other globally?

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:03 pm
by scott
You can do domains, usernames, regexs of domains/usernames. Examples:

scott@* <- would get anything with the username scott, to any domain (rcpthosts would filter the valid domains).
scott@atomicrocketturtle.com <- just that email
*@atomicrocketturtle.com <- anything to that domain
scott*@atomicrocketturtle.com <- anything with scott in front @atomicrocketturtle.com
@atomic*.com <- any email to any domain with atomic in the front of it.

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:38 am
by Inaba
Where are we at with the validrcptto file deal? Is it in the current implementation for PG or still in bleeding?

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:21 pm
by Inaba
I tried to install the atomic-bleeding version, but it failed to install on a PG box.

Any updates on this?

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:31 pm
by scott
Havent touched it in a while, so no.

Re: Backscatter problems with PG & Plesk

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:27 pm
by linuxmagic
The new MagicSpam for Plesk is out, and it really helps stop backscatter problems.. Simple to install module for Plesk, unlimited users for only about $10/month.. Really saves your CPU too.. http://www.magicspam.com

Re: Backscatter problems with PG & Plesk

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 5:37 pm
by scott
I wonder if spamdyke does this, I added that to the repo a week or so ago

Re: Backscatter problems with PG & Plesk

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:14 am
by faris
Yes, spamdyke can do it.

Faris.

Re: Backscatter problems with PG & Plesk

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:32 am
by scott
sweet, well we've got that in atomic now, as well as Haggybears plesk module for it. What settings in spamdyke do you use for it? I can set it up to ship that way by default

Re: Backscatter problems with PG & Plesk

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:04 pm
by faris
Unfortunately it doesn't work in the way I initially thought it would.
You see you can blacklist a receiving domain but if you then whitelist the valid addresses there would be no spam filtering on them! FAIL :-(

http://www.spamdyke.org/documentation/R ... _ADDRESSES

http://www.spamdyke.org/documentation/R ... l#RELAYING


Faris.