Atomicorp

I have been trying to find information on how to install ASL and it has taken me a long time. I first found the product page that says it supports CentOS 5. This is good. Details here:
http://www.atomicrocketturtle.com/Jooml ... ew/137/34/

Unfortunately this is actually not on the product page but the subscription page. ?????

I was given a location of http://www.atomicorp.com/channels/asl/ to install asl and a user/passwd. Unfortunately after looking about I see CentOS 5 is not supported there. Searching some more I find that CentOS 5 is only supported in ASL 2.0. Perhaps that would be a good thing to add to the Subscription page which really is confusing when I'm looking for a description. Your subscription page should be linked in the products section too.

Well, again hours pass and I search the forums and again no information. Then I stumble in the Wiki across the installation steps for 2.0 and post steps. These are good. However they mention that they are for the bleeding release. Not so keen on that. But I configured Yum only to find it was wrong in one documentation and right in another. I also notice that I could go to the original link and I can browse up the structure and back down to the 2.0 version. This is great but the Yum information at the bottom of each page is consistently incorrect. Again frustrating. But I pushed on and found the correct path if I copy what is in bleeding section and place that up in the 2.0 release it appears to work and most if not all rpms are located there and I can see that as well.

My question now. Is 2.0 release a stable release? I don't see any comments in the news section and none in the forums on the status. But I do see asl there and if I run the yum install asl it will prompt me to install the packages and other needed packages. I have these settings in my yum config.

[asl]
name=Atomicorp - $releasever - Atomic Secured Linux
baseurl=http://user:password@atomicorp.com/chan ... /$basearch
enabled=1
gpgcheck=1

Would you please confirm that this is correct and I have the proper settings? Would be much appreciated.

thanks,

P.S. If you spent just 1 hour on the site organization this would have been so much easier. There should be a link on the product page to ASL Subscription page but called Product Details. And on that page you could put a note that CentOS 5 is only supported on ASL 2.0. Also, in the installation you should note that as well and fix the yum information to asl.

I do look forward to checking the product out and have heard good things but this time spent trying to install has not been enjoyable.

Thanks for the heads up, the web site is being redone by another group so as we get closer to the final 2.0 release we should get more and more of this cleaned up. I'll definitely pass your comments on to them, its all spot on accurate.


If there is anything we're really weak at here, its web and graphics. We're security folk, telling people about what you're doing is kind of the antithesis of being in security (The irony being that we're also founders of plesk... which is all about being web folk).

At any rate, the shortcut to installing ASL is:

wget -q -O - http://www.atomicorp.com/installers/asl |sh

That should be getting sent in the signup emails right now, but I'll go and doublecheck that as soon as I can.

Release wise, 2.0 is in beta and I consider it stable enough for production use. Frankly I could have called Beta 2 "2.0", but I felt there were some key features that needed to be in the 2.0 release, like the watchdog system, virtualization support, and the OSSEC update that supports mysql.

Thanks for the info. I've always approached software production this way. If the user can't install, how do I sell? Start with simple information and keep that up to date. Then make fancy installation documentation.